šŸŽ„ Summary of the video Fareed Zakaria – _ā€œThe two deep failures of modern liberalismā€ by cnn

At its core, Zakaria’s argument is thatĀ modern liberalism has lost both its economic and social balance.

1 Economic failure: technocracy + inequality

  • Liberalism since the 1990s embracedĀ markets, globalisation, and technocratic governance.
  • It delivered growth—but also:
    • regional decline (post-industrial areas)
    • rising inequality
    • a sense that elites are insulated from consequences
  • Politics became managerial rather than transformational.

šŸ‘‰ Result: many working- and lower-middle-class people feelĀ abandoned by a system run by experts.


2 Cultural failure: elitism + disconnect

  • Liberalism shifted towardĀ highly educated, urban, professional classes.
  • It became associated with:
    • cultural liberalism
    • identity politics
    • moral certainty
  • This created a perception (fair or not) ofĀ condescension toward ā€œordinaryā€ voters.

šŸ‘‰ Result: a backlash—fueling populism, nationalism, and anti-establishment politics.


Big takeaway

Zakaria’s core claim:

Liberalism is losingĀ connection, confidence, and legitimacyĀ among the people it claims to represent. (reddit.com)

He suggests it mustĀ recover its older, more radical, reforming energy, not just manage the status quo.


🧠 Critique of the video

Zakaria is sharp, but there are a few limits to his analysis:

āœ… What he gets right

  • TheĀ elite capture of liberal politicsĀ is real.
  • The shift fromĀ class politics → cultural politicsĀ is crucial.
  • The idea that liberalism becameĀ managerial rather than moralĀ is persuasive.

āš ļø Where it’s weaker

1) It underplays capitalism itself

He frames this as a failure ofĀ liberalism, but:

  • Many would argue the issue isĀ neoliberal capitalism, not liberal values per se.
  • Liberalism didn’t just ā€œdriftā€ā€”it activelyĀ aligned with financial/global capital.

šŸ‘‰ So the failure may be structural, not just cultural.


2 It treats ā€œthe peopleā€ as a bit vague

  • Who exactly are the ā€œleft behindā€?
  • Class, region, age, and education all matter—but he blends them.

šŸ‘‰ This matters when applying it to the UK.


3 It doesn’t fully confront class

Class is implicit, but not central:

  • The divide he describes is basically:
    • graduate elite vs non-graduate majority
  • ThatĀ isĀ class—but he avoids saying it directly.

šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§ Class and the UK: where this lands

This is where your question gets really interesting.

The UK shift (roughly 1990s → now)

Labour (especially post-Blair):

  • moved toward:
    • middle-class, university-educated voters
    • London + cities
  • deprioritised:
    • industrial working-class identity
    • unions as a central force

šŸ‘‰ This mirrors Zakaria’s ā€œelite liberalism.ā€


The result: a class realignment

Instead of:

  • Left = working classĀ 
  • Right = elite

We now have something closer to:

  • Labour = urban, graduate, public-sector middle class
  • Conservatives / populists = older, non-graduate, ex-industrial voters

That’s aĀ class shift, not just a political one.


🌱 The Green Party as a challenger

You’re right to frame the Greens as a challenger—but it’s aĀ specific kind of challenge.

What the Greens represent

  • socially liberal
  • pro-environment
  • anti-growth (in some strands)
  • strong among:
    • younger voters
    • renters
    • highly educated urbanites

Are they anti-elitist?

Here’s the tension:

āœ… In one sense:

  • They challenge Labour from the left
  • They reject neoliberal economics more strongly
  • They appeal to disillusionment with mainstream politics

āŒ But in another sense:

  • Their base is oftenĀ even more educated and urban than Labour’s
  • Their politics can feelĀ abstract or moralistic rather than material

šŸ‘‰ So they are not aĀ working-class insurgencyĀ in the traditional sense.


Better way to frame it

The Greens are:

  • not a revolt against elitism
  • but a revoltĀ within the educated liberal class

They intensify, rather than replace, the cultural direction Zakaria critiques.


🧩 Liberal paternalism (and the UK)

What is it?

Liberal paternalism =
guiding people’s choices ā€œfor their own goodā€ while preserving formal freedom

Classic examples:

  • sugar taxes
  • nudging behaviour (behavioural economics)
  • public health campaigns
  • restrictions framed as ā€œsoftā€ rather than coercive

Does it exist in the UK?

Very much so.

The UK is arguably one of its main homes:

  • ā€œNudge Unitā€ (Behavioural Insights Team) originated in the UK
  • policies like:
    • smoking bans
    • minimum alcohol pricing (Scotland)
    • sugar tax
  • heavy reliance onĀ expert-led policy

šŸ‘‰ This fits Zakaria’s ā€œtechnocratic liberalism.ā€


The class dimension

Here’s the uncomfortable bit:

Liberal paternalism often flows:

  • fromĀ educated policymakers
  • towardĀ less affluent populations

Examples:

  • telling people how to eat
  • how to parent
  • how to spend
  • how to behave environmentally

šŸ‘‰ It can feel like:Ā ā€œwe know better than youā€ politics

That’s where resentment builds.


šŸ¤” Should liberal paternalism exist?

The case FOR it

  • It works (public health improvements are real)
  • People don’t always make rational decisions
  • It avoids harsher coercion

The case AGAINST it

  • It can be:
    • patronising
    • culturally blind
    • class-coded
  • It replacesĀ democratic persuasion with expert management

The real issue

The problem isn’t paternalism itself—it’sĀ who controls it and how it’s perceived.

  • If it’s seen as:

    • fair
    • universal
    • democratically accountable → accepted
  • If it’s seen as:

    • imposed by elites
    • targeting ā€œother peopleā€ → backlash

🧠 Final synthesis

  • Zakaria describes aĀ liberalism that has drifted away from class politics and toward elite management.
  • In the UK:
    • Labour reflects this shift strongly
    • The Greens challenge Labour—but mostlyĀ within the same social stratum
  • Liberal paternalism is:
    • real
    • effective
    • but politically dangerous when tied toĀ class hierarchy

If you want, I can push this further—e.g. whether aĀ genuinely class-rooted leftĀ could re-emerge in the UK, or whether that space is now permanently fractured.

UK post-industrial working class

You’re circling a real tension in UK politics—but one part of your premise needs tightening first.

šŸ‘‰ It’sĀ not quite accurateĀ that ā€œmost Manchester boroughs went to Reform.ā€Ā 

  • InĀ Greater Manchester, Labour still dominates local government and Andy Burnham won the mayoralty very comfortably (last election: May 2, 2024).Ā 
  • Reform UK has beenĀ growing in vote share, and in someĀ northern and Midlands areasĀ it’s polling strongly, but it hasn’t taken over Manchester boroughs in any sweeping sense.

That said, theĀ pattern you’re pointing to—Reform gaining traction while figures like Burnham remain popular—is very real and worth unpacking.


🧭 The missing class: who isn’t being represented?

When we say Labour and the Greens skew ā€œelite,ā€ it doesn’t mean rich—it means:

šŸ‘‰Ā graduate, urban, culturally liberal, institutionally embedded

The group that’s less well represented is roughly:

  • non-graduatesĀ 
  • lower-income or economically insecureĀ 
  • outside major city centres (or in poorer parts of them)Ā 
  • more socially conservative or at least less culturally progressiveĀ 
  • sceptical of institutions (media, academia, civil service)

This is often called theĀ ā€œpost-industrial working classā€ā€”but it also includes parts of the lower middle class.


šŸ”€ Why Reform becomes attractive to this group

It’s not just ā€œthey’ve gone right-wing.ā€ It’s more specific than that.

1 They reject theĀ toneĀ of modern liberal politics

  • feel talked down to on:
    • immigrationĀ 
    • identity issuesĀ 
    • environment
  • liberal paternalism comes across as:
    • ā€œyou live wrong, think wrong, vote wrongā€

šŸ‘‰ Reform positions itself asĀ anti-condescension, not just anti-policy.


2 Clarity beats nuance

Labour (especially under Starmer):

  • cautiousĀ 
  • managerialĀ 
  • avoids strong positions

Greens:

  • morally clear but often abstract

Reform:

  • simple, blunt, emotionally direct

šŸ‘‰ In politics,Ā clarity often beats correctness.


3 Class identity has been displaced

Old Labour:

  • spoke explicitly in class terms (workers vs bosses)

Modern Labour:

  • speaks in:
    • opportunityĀ 
    • growthĀ 
    • stability

šŸ‘‰ That leaves a vacuum whereĀ class anger has nowhere to go on the left.

Reform fills it—by redirecting it toward:

  • immigrationĀ 
  • government elitesĀ 
  • ā€œLondonā€

🧠 Is this about rejecting left vs right entirely?

Partly, yes.

A lot of these voters don’t think in ideological terms anymore. Instead, they feel:

  • ā€œNo one speaks for people like meā€
  • ā€œPolitics is run by a closed classā€
  • ā€œBoth sides are the sameā€

šŸ‘‰ Reform benefits because itĀ performs opposition to the whole system, not just Labour.


šŸŒ† So why does Burnham still win big?

This is the really interesting part—and it shows the story isn’t one-directional.

Burnham succeeds where national Labour struggles

He does a few key things differently:


1 He speaks inĀ class languageĀ again

  • buses, housing, wages, policingĀ 
  • tangible, material issuesĀ 
  • strong regional identity (ā€œGreater Manchester firstā€)

šŸ‘‰ That feelsĀ grounded, not abstract.


2 He positions himself againstĀ the system, not just within it

Even as Labour:

  • he criticises central governmentĀ 
  • frames himself as a defender of the region

šŸ‘‰ He doesn’t sound like a distant technocrat.


3 He blends cultural moderation with economic intervention

  • not aggressively ā€œculture warā€ liberalĀ 
  • but clearly left on:
    • public servicesĀ 
    • transportĀ 
    • inequality

šŸ‘‰ This combination is closer to what many voters actually want:Ā economically interventionist, culturally not overbearing


4 Visibility and trust

  • tangible policies (e.g. bus franchising)
  • strong personal brand

šŸ‘‰ People feel:Ā ā€œhe actually does thingsā€


āš–ļø Big picture: what’s really happening

You’re seeing aĀ three-way split, not just left vs right:

1 Liberal-professional left

  • Labour core + GreensĀ 
  • urban, educatedĀ 
  • culturally progressive

2 Populist right (Reform)

  • anti-eliteĀ 
  • culturally conservativeĀ 
  • economically mixed (not purely free-market)

3 Residual ā€œmaterial leftā€ (Burnham-style)

  • class-focusedĀ 
  • place-basedĀ 
  • less culturally intenseĀ 
  • pragmatic

šŸ”„ The key tension

The voters drifting to Reform are not necessarily:

  • deeply right-wingĀ 
  • committed to free markets

They are often:

  • anti-system
  • anti-condescension
  • pro-recognition (respect, identity, voice)

šŸ‘‰ If the left doesn’t supply that, the right will.


šŸ¤” So is Reform the ā€œnatural homeā€ for them?

Not necessarily.

Reform is currently:

  • aĀ vehicle for protest
  • not yet a fully trusted governing option

If Labour (or figures like Burnham) can:

  • re-centre classĀ 
  • reduce perceived cultural distanceĀ 
  • avoid paternalism

šŸ‘‰ those voters areĀ absolutely recoverable


🧠 Final thought

This isn’t just about policy—it’s aboutĀ social alignment.

Right now, many voters feel:

the people making the rules don’t live like me, think like me, or respect me

Reform exploits that.

Burnham partially resolves it.

Labour nationally is still stuck in between—competent, but not rooted.

šŸ‘‰Ā What would a genuinely class-rooted, post-liberal political movement look like today—and could it win?


🧱 1. Start with the core break: what it is not

A credible ā€œpost-liberalā€ or class-rooted movement wouldĀ reject three things at once:

āŒ Not technocratic liberalism (current Labour default)

  • not run by experts talking about ā€œgrowth frameworksā€
  • not vague managerial competence

āŒ Not identity-first politics (caricature of the modern left)

  • not led by abstract social justice language
  • not culturally moralising

āŒ Not right-wing populism (Reform)

  • not primarily about immigration or culture war
  • not anti-state in an economic sense

šŸ‘‰ Instead, it would re-anchor politics aroundĀ material life + dignity + place


🧭 2. The core philosophy: ā€œmaterial dignityā€

If you had to boil it down to one idea:

People should haveĀ control, security, and respectĀ in their everyday lives.

That means combining:

  • economic interventionĀ (left-wing)
  • cultural restraintĀ (not aggressively progressive or conservative)
  • democratic groundingĀ (anti-elite, but not anti-institution)

šŸ—ļø 3. What policies would actually define it?

Not a long manifesto—just a fewĀ feltĀ priorities.

šŸ  A Cost of living + economic security

  • massive housebuilding (including social housing)
  • energy cost stabilisation (public involvement in energy markets)
  • stronger wage floors (sectoral bargaining, not just minimum wage)

šŸ‘‰ Not ideological socialism—practical economic protection


🚌 B Visible, local improvements

This is where Burnham is the template:

  • transport (buses, trains under local control)
  • high streets, policing, GP access
  • regional investment

šŸ‘‰ The key:Ā people must see change in their area


šŸ­ C Rebuilding ā€œuseful workā€

  • industrial policy (green + manufacturing)
  • apprenticeships over just university expansion
  • valuing non-graduate pathways

šŸ‘‰ This directly addresses the class divide Greens/Labour struggle with.


šŸŒ D Controlled, honest immigration policy

This is where many left projects fail.

A post-liberal movement would say:

  • immigration hasĀ economic benefits
  • but alsoĀ real pressures (housing, wages, services)

šŸ‘‰ So:

  • lower overall numbersĀ orĀ better infrastructure planning
  • no moralising tone
  • no denial of trade-offs

This is crucial—because avoidance here pushes voters to Reform.


🧠 E Anti-paternalism (tone as much as policy)

  • less ā€œnudging people to behave correctlyā€
  • moreĀ treating people as ą¦°ą¦¾ą¦œą¦Øą§ˆą¦¤ą¦æą¦• equals

Examples:

  • climate policy framed aroundĀ jobs + cheaper energy, not guilt
  • public health framed around support, not blame

šŸ—£ļø 4. The tone: this matters more than policy

This kind of movement would sound:

  • plain-speaking, not academicĀ 
  • emotionally grounded, not abstractĀ 
  • respectful, not corrective

šŸ‘‰ The test is simple:

Does this sound like someone who lives a similar life to the voter?

Burnham passes this test more than most national figures.


šŸ§‘ā€šŸ¤ā€šŸ§‘ 5. The coalition it would build

This is the interesting part—it’s aĀ cross-pressure coalition:

It would include:

  • traditional working class (post-industrial areas)
  • lower middle class (small business, trades)
  • some public sector workers
  • parts of the ā€œleft-behindā€ youth (non-graduates especially)

It would lose:

  • some highly progressive, graduate, urban voters
  • parts of the current Green base

šŸ‘‰ But it couldĀ replace losses with voters currently going to Reform


āš ļø 6. The big obstacles

This is why it doesn’t fully exist yet:

1 Labour’s internal coalition

  • heavily shaped by graduates + public sector + urban voters
  • cautious about culture + immigration

2 Media + institutional pressure

  • anything deviating from liberal norms gets labelled:
    • ā€œpopulistā€
    • ā€œdog-whistleā€
    • or worse

3 The Greens’ limitations

  • strong morally, weak materially (in class terms)
  • struggle outside educated urban base

4 Reform’s advantage

  • emotionally simple
  • doesn’t need to govern (yet)

šŸ”„ 7. Where this is already happening (partially)

You can already see fragments of this model:

  • Andy Burnham (Manchester) → material + regional + grounded toneĀ 
  • Some ā€œBlue Labourā€ thinkers → class, community, cultureĀ 
  • Dan Carden / parts of Labour left → economic focus without heavy cultural framing

But it’s not unified.


šŸ”„ 8. The strategic insight

Here’s the key point tying everything together:

šŸ‘‰ The voters moving to Reform are not primarily asking for right-wing economics.

They are asking for:

  • recognitionĀ 
  • controlĀ 
  • fairnessĀ 
  • voice

And they currently feel:

liberal politics offers them management, not representation


🧠 Final answer to your core question

Yes—Reform is benefiting from a gap between liberal-left politics and class-rooted voters.

But:

  • it’s not because those voters ā€œwant the rightā€
  • it’s becauseĀ the left stopped speaking their language—materially and culturally

And:

šŸ‘‰ Burnham’s success shows those voters areĀ still winnable without becoming right-wing

If you want, I can take this one step further and sketch what happens over the next 5–10 years:

  • whether Labour adapts
  • whether Reform stabilises
  • and whether a new alignment replaces left vs right entirely